Brand Story Podcast
The Brand Story podcast features in-depth conversations with marketers, leaders, and brand storytellers about their professional journeys and the impact they’re making on the world around them.
Branding Beyond Algorithms featuring Rand Fishkin
Cofounder & CEO of SparkToro
Branding Beyond Algorithms
In episode 92 of Brand Story, we welcome back Rand Fishkin, Cofounder & CEO of SparkToro, to talk about brand vs. algorithm, the value of real audience research, and the dangers of chasing attention without purpose. He shares the story behind SparkToro, why so many marketers don’t actually know their audience, and how optimizing for vanity metrics can lead you astray.
Marketing in a Zero-Click World featuring Rand Fishkin
Cofounder & CEO of SparkToro
Marketing in a Zero-Click World
In today’s digital landscape, marketers are being asked to do more with less—less clarity, less control, and often, less trust in what’s actually working. To explore this shift, we sat down with Rand Fishkin, Cofounder & CEO of SparkToro, to unpack what’s changing, what’s still true, and what marketers need to relearn to build brands that actually resonate. From zero-click search to the surprising power of so-called “vanity metrics,” this episode challenges the way we think about digital success and makes the case for more thoughtful, audience-first marketing.
The Happiness Advantage featuring Mark Lester
Co-Founder and CSO at Squint
The Happiness Advantage
What if happiness is the most powerful brand strategy no one’s paying attention to? Mark Lester, Co-Founder and CSO at Squint, joins us to talk about how brands can drive massive impact, not by leaning harder into industry claims or trend forecasts, but by reconnecting with something far more fundamental: joy. From reimagining OLIPOP as a “happiness drink” to rebuilding brand trust one hike at a time, Mark shares how deep listening, emotional resonance, and strategic empathy can transform the way brands show up in the world.
The Evolution of Branding featuring Troy Hitch
Global Chief Creative Officer at RAPP
The Evolution of Branding
Creative leadership, brand strategy, and the future of the industry—Troy Hitch, Global Chief Creative Officer at RAPP, shares how he approaches it all. From empowering teams to rethinking the role of brand in an AI-driven world, episode 89 explores what it means to lead well and build work that resonates.
Community in Advertising featuring Gina Grillo
President and CEO of The ADVERTISING Club of New York
Community in Advertising
Gina Grillo, President and CEO of The ADVERTISING Club of New York, joins us on episode 88 of Brand Story to talk about building community in advertising, staying relevant through change, and why it’s time to rethink who gets a seat at the table. From championing diversity to shaking up the ANDY Awards, Gina shares what it takes to lead with intention—and why bravery still matters in creative work.
Fearless Design featuring Aya Baeshean
Partner, VP, & Global Head of Design at Known
Fearless Design
What does it look like to lead with both intuition and intention? As Partner and Global Head of Design at Known, Aya Baeshean brings a fresh, fearless perspective to the world of branding. In episode 87 of Brand Story, Aya shares how her early experiences as a multicultural, multilingual child shaped her creative voice and ultimately her approach to leadership. She opens up about the power of immersive travel and volunteer work, the importance of emotional safety in creative teams, and how breaking down traditional structures can lead to better, faster, more human work.
Designing Iconic Products featuring Robert Brunner
Founder/Partner at Ammunition
Designing Iconic Products
Industrial design impacts our daily lives more than we realize. But what separates good design from great design? In episode 86 of Brand Story, we hear from Robert Brunner, Founder/Partner at Ammunition, about the philosophy behind creating industry-defining products. From game-changing innovations like Beats by Dre and Square to the balance of risk, creativity, and business strategy, we dive into the impact design has on shaping culture and brand perception.
Say it Well featuring Terry Szuplat
Former President Obama speechwriter and founder of Global Voices Communications
Say it Well
In episode 85 of Brand Story, host Steve Gillman welcomes back Terry Szuplat, former speechwriter for President Obama and author of the award-winning book “Say It Well: Find Your Voice, Speak Your Mind, and Inspire Any Audience.” Terry shares insights on the power of storytelling in leadership and communication, emphasizing how compelling narratives can drive connection and inspire action. He discusses the core beliefs that motivate individuals to engage with organizations and the importance of effective communication.
Season 4 Favorite Moments featuring Steve Gilman
Season 4 Favorite Moments
From content marketing and branding to creative strategy and AI, this season of Brand Story featured insights from professionals at the forefront of their industries. In this episode, we revisit some of our favorite moments, showcasing advice on innovation, leadership, creativity, and staying ahead in an ever-evolving landscape.
Whether you’re a new listener or a longtime fan, this episode is packed with actionable tips and inspiring stories to help you elevate your work and sharpen your skills—no matter your field.
Featuring guests Dana Herra, Maya Guice, Ross Martin, Alison McCauley, and Tara Lawell with host, Steve Gilman.
Customer-Centric Innovation featuring Alicia Knight
Senior Product Business Consultant at Southwest Airlines
Customer-Centric Innovation
The best brands don’t become successful by standing still — they change and evolve alongside their customers. As a Senior Product Business Consultant at Southwest Airlines, Alicia has seen her fair share of change — in fact, she’s leading it. In episode 83 of Brand Story, Alicia shares insights from the airline industry and the changes she’s seen over the years. We also discuss the importance of understanding what you’re trying to accomplish as a brand and the opportunities we all have to make the customer experience better.
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