Episode 48
Brand Story Podcast

Overcoming Fear and Burnout

featuring Jahmaal Marshall

CEO, Counselor, Consultant

Jahmaal Marshall, CEO, Counselor, Consultant, talks about the importance of self-awareness and what makes a successful leader with our president, Steve Gilman.

Leadership takes more than just having a good work ethic. It takes humility and self-awareness. It’s important for leaders to understand their own behaviors, strengths, and weaknesses to better manage teams, delegate tasks more effectively, and build better relationships with their staff. As Jahmaal Marshall would say, sometimes the only way up is down.

As a certified counselor, consultant, and CEO of Listen Then Speak, Jahmaal coaches leaders on identifying their personal habits and how to cope with fear, burnout, and people-pleasing. In this episode of Brand Story, we hear from Jahmaal about the importance of setting boundaries and the role of vulnerability in leadership, as he shares personal stories from his past and what he’s seen in the workplace. Our conversation is full of tips on dealing with fear and finding a balance with your team, so you can become a more successful leader.

About the Guest

Jahmaal Marshall

CEO, Counselor, Consultant

Jahmall is a certified counselor and the founder of Listen Then Speak, a consultancy that helps managers and leaders learn the skills they need to cope with burnout, co-dependency and people pleasing. He’s also the host of the Listen Then Speak podcast, and has a passion for helping people take control of their lives and reach their full potential.

Quickfire Q&A

If you could give your younger self a message, what would it be?

Jahmaal: I would say this all has a purpose. It doesn’t make sense now, I know you’re hurting, [but] all that’s for a reason. You don’t fit in with the crowd so that you can touch the globe. Be encouraged and keep going.

What's a piece of advice that you've been given that's really stuck with you?

Jahmaal: The way up is down. Humility is the key. Ask for help when you need it. Don’t carry anything alone and be teachable.

About The Host

Steve Gilman

As the President of Gravity Group, Steve is passionate about helping brands reach their goals through honest, creative marketing and powerful brand stories.